When I was a kid, my mom used to rage about people who had weeds growing in their gardens. Those weeds go to seed and those seeds get blown around the neighborhood, leaving my mom’s pristine garden a hapless victim.
Weeds in her garden were the result of inconsiderate, stupid, ignorant weed people who simply didn’t care about anyone but themselves. What’s wrong with people these days? (Apparently, all of those folks who think it is the current generation didn’t know about my mom’s weed problem).
It never occurred to her that maybe her neighbors had different interests. Or maybe they had a different vision of what a good garden might look like. Or maybe they perceived her as eccentric and silly, especially when she started calling the police to report the worst offenders. Who knows? My mom was a master gardener. She knew the facts, and their weeds were a problem, even if the offending parties weren’t much interested in learning about it.
I heard about weeds my whole childhood, as did the neighbors.
My mom was right about weeds but she was wrong about people. The weed people were not bad, malicious, or thoughtless; they were simply operating with a different set of priorities. Her efforts to bludgeon the neighbors into submission through education were not being ignored because they were unable to learn; they were being ignored because they didn’t share her priorities. Her mistake was assuming that once they were educated then they would gladly give up their own interests to ensure that her garden and their neighborhood remained weed free. And when that didn’t happen, she became increasingly frustrated and angry.
When we have a passion, in particular one which is not shared by most of society, we struggle with perspective. We forget that we’re the weird ones; the people with special requirements which are outside the societal norm. We are the problem.
It really doesn’t matter if you’re right. My mom was right. But being right did nothing to solve her problem because her point of view was not the normative one and she was unable to communicate in a way that might have helped other people understand what she needed from them.
“Dog people” seem to struggle with this as well. If you are reading this blog then your beliefs about dogs almost certainly do not fit what is typical. You may have all kinds of knowledge about dogs and how things should be and you may be right! But understanding that you are outside the societal norm might be helpful the next time you try to bludgeon a person into acquiescence when they do something that isn’t to your particular liking.
What’s your issue? Flexi leashes? Dog food? Dogs riding loose in cars? Dogs sticking their head out the car window? Dog parks? Off-leash dogs?
Or maybe your issue has nothing to do with dogs or gardens; maybe you’re the driving police. Everyone should drive exactly the speed limit, use their blinkers at each intersection, cross only at marked crosswalks, and count a full second before proceeding after a stop sign. And if they don’t follow the rules? You’ll be sure to let them know because you are right!
Or maybe you’re all over the map, picking and choosing what you are right about while waiting for the world to recognize your knowledge so that you can finally be appreciated for the prophet that you are.
Really, perspective is everything. And yes, that is exactly how other people perceive you.
Can you take another perspective? Can you list out several reasons why a perfectly decent, thoughtful, normal individual might raise their dog in a different manner than you do? Or break the speed limit on occasion? Or ingore the weeds in their garden? Or feed their dog cheap store bought kibble? Or walk their dog on a flexi?
If you can’t do that without going right back to rationalizing why you are still right, then you are the problem – you simply cannot get far enough out of your worldview to recognize a different possibility. If you cannot stop focusing on the exception, the one neighbor who really does spend their every moment trying to mess with others, then you are the problem. If you really see yourself as the “bearer of truth” who bears the burden of sharing important but uncomfortable truths with the ignorant masses, then you are the problem. If you really cannot recognize that most people are not out to get you, then it really is about you! But maybe not the way you thought.
When I figured out that I was the problem because of my unique perspective on dogs, I became much more able to set up circumstances around me that let me focus on solutions rather than stewing in the unfairness of it all. I found myself getting my needs met, and I had better relationships with others. A net win.
As my mom aged, arthritis made gardening painful and dementia made it unimportant. And while I have no idea if anyone else in the neighborhood cares, I can’t help but think about it every time I show up and realize that my mom is now one of the weed people.
For quite awhile, I have enjoyed and learned from your books and posts on dog training and behavior. But it is through posts like this, and the one on ” molecular redistribution” that I realize how lucky I am to have access to your ideas and advice. Because becoming a better “dog person” is almost always about becoming a more self-aware and compassionate person. Thank you for sharing your wisdom.
Thank you. I truly appreciate that you took the time to let me know.
I’m a huge fan of your work. Thank you for giving prospective.
We are all someone’s weed people.
Very well said. I will put this on the fridge and read it every day.
Me driving: “please follow the rules because I DONT WANNA DIE.” 😨
I could care less about flexi leads. But I am upset when someone’s dog that has been repeatedly allowed to run loose through the neighborhood attacks my neighbor’s dog. (She’s still not sure if the dog is going to make it or not.) I have a problem with that. I have a BIG problem with that. Leash laws exist to keep us safe. Traffic laws exist to keep us safe. LAWS exist to keep us safe.
Does it give you pause that even with leash laws in place, your neighbor’s dog may still die? Does it help to know that you’re right?
I need to get along so that people will try to cooperate with me. Because honestly, if my dog gets killed by another dog, my dog is dead regardless of what laws were or were not followed. I need a solution, not the chance to be right.
And anyway, since I do occasionally speed when I drive, roll through stop signs and jay walk, I’m not in a position to hold others accountable to laws that may make as little sense to them as not crossing the street away from the crosswalk makes to me.
No, but humans are humans and I think it’s unreasonable to expect people not to get upset over things like that. What could help is more widespread education in this area about responsible dog ownership. Educating someone does not have to involve “bludgeoning” them, and if it does then it’s being done wrong. But I don’t think it’s okay for people and their dogs to get hurt or killed because other people’s priorities are different or the laws don’t make sense to them. Just because the law doesn’t make sense to you doesn’t mean you’re excused from following it.
I tend to agree with Casper. There is a big difference between loose dogs and weeds. Loose dogs cause real injuries and even deaths. When there are enough loose dogs in my neighborhood, I cannot even walk my own dog on her 3 foot leash. I take a risk going biking.
It’s fine to say “find solutions,” but I was hoping you would give examples of how you have done so. The article rather glides over that part. Just: find solutions! But when you think about it, laws ARE solutions. They exist to let everyone know what is expected.
Where I live, loose dogs that kill other dogs are not considered “typical and normal” and the article was pretty clear about addressing circumstances where YOU are outside the norm, not your rogue neighbor. Regardless, if I lived in a place where normally accepted behavior included aggressive dogs roaming and terrorizing, I would never walk my dog there – my dogs would be in my house, my yard or in my car to get us from here to there. Same as when I lived in the ghetto where people killed each other pretty regularly (true story); I didn’t hang outside at night and then I moved when the opportunity arose.
If you want to ask how I handle examples that would be on point to the article, then consider taking classes at FDSA, joining the alumni group on FB, and engaging in this sort of dialogue there. It’s what we do! Lively discussion on challenging topics.
Thank you, that’s kind of what I was trying to say only you said it better. 🙂
I didn’t see the article as about ‘loose dangerous dogs’ so much as different people with a different agenda.
(Actually I sort up in a sort of ‘weed people garden’. Not that it was untidy or even weed strewn — just not forced into military exactness.)
I might not quite approve of how the neighbours garden, or bring up their kids or train their dogs, but unless they are causing a ‘public nuisance” I will not complain.
I don’t seem anble to edit my posts, 🙁 What I did mean to say was I GREW up in a weed-people family 🙂
Casper, complain to the relevant authorities. As for yourself, be sure to have safe and secure fences, just as your neighbour should have.
Yes, I’m pretty sure my neighbor has already reported them. I don’t have a fence currently so I go out with my dog every time she goes out and make sure she never leaves the yard.
agree with Eliza beth Cook thankyou.
This is quite thoughtful and thought provoking. Your posts frequently give me pause. And, because I pause & contemplate, I believer I’m a better person for it- thank you.
This was a very thought-provoking and excellent post. I agree, being right isn’t going to solve the problem and we must work together to find solutions. I do have a solution for those that walk where dogs sometimes might be on the loose. I use a stun gun baton. It has stopped large dogs closing in on my two small dogs in their tracks. It makes a horrible noise and can shock if needed, which I never had to use since the noise is so loud. This works and gives me comfort. Even in safe areas, there is always the dog that gets away from the owner, so it is good to be prepared. Just thought I would share this.
That is a really good idea. Though I still think if one is having an issue with loose dogs coming onto one’s own property, (as my neighbor did,) it is perfectly okay to talk to the owner, and (politely, of course) explain to them that it is unacceptable, and if the problem continues, to report them (as my neighbor now has.)
Interesting responses. Obviously many of us have a ‘need’ to be RIGHT! Always thought-provoking and I am enjoying thinking about how I fall into this, too – driving, gardening and dog-training. Thanks, Denise.
Wise words
Spot on thoughts
Thank you for taking the time to share them
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Re loose dogs coming onto your property, When we were first here , our fences were not dog proof, so when the dogs were outside they were tethered. We had one neighbour who thought it OK to let her dog roam, and he would come onto our property and annoy our dogs. So one day, I put him on a lead and tied him to out house block gate post. Where I knew his people would be able to see him. Just as evening began their two boys came sheepishly up up to our house and asked If they could please have their dog back. Oh, yes, certainly, I said. I was worried about him getting killed on the road, so I tied him up to keep him safe! From that day on they managed to keep that dog and their subsequent dogs in their own yard.
New blog looks great! 😊
Just re-read this post — really thought-provoking on many levels.
Good blog post and so true. After a decade of falling into the “even more crazy” dog lady (I became a trainer) the need to be right and control everyone has dissolved. My perspective is definitely abnormal.
My only objection to loose dogs is as a safety concern (for the others around him), which is certainly within social norms. I don’t have a philosophical objection, it’s purely practical. I do occasionally tsk at people with dogs on their laps in the car but, well, not my biz. Plus I vacillate between being amused and annoyed when others choose to “educate” me on dog rules of which they feel I am in violation.
I have another perspective. I don’t think your mum was right. I think her view was wrong and tends toward being damaging. Or possibly not her view – I have no idea what sort of garden your mum had when she was fit and able.
I tend to feel that we could all do with more weeds in our gardens.
Often the plants that are grown in the gardens of proud garden owners are grown to look good. Often they have no nectar for the bees. They grow no seeds for the birds (or if they do, they are cut down before the seeds can form). A neat, tidy, often fiddled with garden provides no home for insects. A garden with neat looking plants isn’t providing food for caterpillars – or slugs and snails.
For people in the UK, dandelions – one of the worst viewed weeds – are also among the first flowers to bloom each spring. They provide vital food for the bees in the early spring. And people who love gardens do all they can to get rid of them. Not only that but the leaves, flowers and roots are all edible. They are a fantastic plant.
Untidy, weed filled gardens are generally speaking far better for the environment and for the animals that we share the world with than neat, tidy ones.
I find it’s an almost daily struggle to accept “weed people” (especially around the care and training of animals) and a difficult concept to recognize in one’s self. But it’s true when they say recognizing a problem is the first step to fixing it. Thanks for explaining it so brilliantly!
Ive just got back from a walk and was looking at one of our local weed gardens. I was actually thinking as I walked past that although it’s ugly with its rampant kikuyu, it’s probably more environmentally friendly than the plastic lawns and spiky flowerless plants that are typical of the newer houses around here. I have a messy flowery garden from which I harvest weeds to feed the chickens, plenty of fruit trees and enough lawn to run an agility sequence on. It’s right for me. I do struggle to look past dog owners who I feel aren’t giving dogs their best lives but yes, I think you’re right – we are the weird ones. I’m getting better at recognising that as time goes by.
I am the problem, hummm, only to people who don’t care, but I am the solution for people who do care. I have this same issue in the health and fitness world. I study heath and fitness and some people just don’t care or think it matters. To them I am the problem but to others I am the solution to health problems. I like being the solution.
I agree with Tracey McL’s perspective on weed, I also don’t think your mum was right about weeds at all. Perfectly manicured gardens are typically full of toxic and/or ecologically useless (e.g. to bees) plants, and often pesticides too. They are typically also disturbed too often to provide a good habitat for all the wildlife that now counts on the habitability of the urban backyards that have over time replaced their original habitats. Personally I also don’t find neat gardens pretty at all, more like soulless and plastic-like. I’ll proudly vote for the weed people anytime!
This is an interesting opinion in the context of modern social discourse, when it’s common (perhaps even “normal”) to try to *change* societal norms by being angry that the norm is in fact normal; and frequently by trying to “cancel” some arbitrarily chosen individuals who did the formerly-normal thing when it was normal. While I tend to agree that it’s not the most constructive or effective strategy, I also can’t 100% get behind the idea that if I’m in some way abnormal, that’s solely my problem, and I can’t in any way expect society to accommodate my “abnormality”.
“the people with special requirements which are outside the societal norm” are a “marginalized population” when society refuses to accommodate those norms; and, as I understand it, the point of today’s social justice movement(s) is that modern society should, in fact, be able to accommodate many more diverse types of people outside the norm than it does at the moment. For example, in a society where it is normal to ignore leash laws (as in most places I’ve lived in the US), dogs in need of space are a marginalized population.
And while it’s worthwhile (and usually necessary) to develop strategies for surviving in such a society with dog-reactive dogs, it’s also entirely reasonable to argue for a change in these norms, especially when the effect on the marginalized population (being extremely restricted in safe places to go outside of your home) is much more severe than the potential effect on the “normal” population (having to walk your dog on a leash in public areas). Trying to “bludgeon a person into acquiescence” may not be the most effective way of arguing for change, but there has to be *something* more effective than just accepting you’ll be marginalized forever, and trying to compensate for it entirely on your own.
Moreover, just because something is a societal norm, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the best thing for the majority of dogs/people – as far as I understand, the majority of adult dogs are not super dog-social; and yet, “MY DOG IS FRIENDLY” remains more or less a societal norm, because this type of marginalization is self-reinforcing: the more that people with DINOS try to cope/compensate for the societal norm by avoiding public spaces with “FRIENDLY” dogs, the more it is cemented in the culture that “normal” spaces are for off-leash-compatible dogs, and that the “normal” way for a dog to be is off-leash or off-leash-compatible.
I guess my question is – if “bludgeoning” people is not a desired behavior, then what is an alternative incompatible behavior that would still achieve my goal, whether that is having a weedless garden or having a safe place to walk my dogs? I can see how understanding “why a perfectly decent, thoughtful, normal individual” might act according to the societal norm is a good first step to having a realistic view of the situation; but then what?
HOW do we “communicate in a way that might [help] other people understand what [we] needed from them”? Tell your audience what TO do.
I guess what I’m saying is: you’re right that being right is not enough; but that’s not enough.
What a fantastic and well thought out response!
I agree with you that there is a huge amount of value to increasing our acceptance of marginalized populations and finding ways to accommodate them. At the same time, I don’t see that the way to get from here to there is by being angry. I simply don’t think it works – it just makes the one who is angry bitter. That serves no one well.
If I am the outlier (reactive dog and I am in a place where it is normative for other dogs to be off leash) I start by accepting that other people are helping me when I get my way – and I am grateful and appreciative. It amazes me how often going out of my way to be friendly and decent yields all sorts of rewards for me. But I need to ask for help and before that I need to clearly internalize the cost to them. (Note: I disagree with your assessment that your dog having to stay in the house is a much more severe consequence than others keeping their dogs on leash. I think it’s a huge ask to others, assuming it’s place where it’s normal for dogs to be off leash. I’ve certainly had my fill of on-leash reactive dogs lunging at my on-leash dog, everyone meeting their legal requirement, yet one player seemingly oblivious to the rights of society not to be subjected to a lunging dog and all that goes with it, not the least of which is what it does to how people view dogs in general. Yet – I don’t dwell on those people – I just change my behavior)
You want change? Look at all points of view and really consider if you’ve made a fair and realistic assessment of the cost/benefit for all parties. If you cannot do that – if you cannot convince yourself that people do what they do for a reason with valid roots, then you will never succeed at changing their behavior.
I accept that some “asks” are probably not going to happen. My mom’s ask, in my opinion, was too big. People are not going to spend hours weeding their garden to make her happy – it’s outside what they have to offer. So I would change my behavior. I’d consider a different approach to gardening, or move my garden to pots inside, or… (I have no idea – I’m not a gardener). Or maybe I would come to terms with the fact that it’s not going to happen – gardening is not important enough to the people where I live so I walk away rather than end up bitter.
I am grateful. I say thank you – even in my head, as opposed to “it’s about time I got my way.” When possible I speak up publicly in appreciation – I create community where I can.
I accept that I might encounter expense or inconvenience to get my way – I do not take my small dog to the same places as my big dog because I believe he has different safely considerations (big dogs are the norm and can hurt small dogs, often by accident).
I ask for help. Not because others owe me, but because people want to help – when they are asked rather than informed or educated about my rights.
I advocate for cooperation.
I talk to people. Random strangers. if I am about to pass on a trail with my on leash dog and I have reason for concern, I call out to them. I talk! This is so rare, yet I am always met with cooperation. It is a habit we need to develop; talking. Not telling others what to do; letting them know that you need them! When people tell me that doesn’t work for them – I consider what I know of the person – and often their approach is abrasive with a “please” tacked on the end. That’s not a winner. Then they’re surprised when it doesn’t work.
I set realistic goals for myself. Depending on where you live and what sorts of spaces you have access to, and exactly what your own needs are, are you being realistic? If it’s not realistic you’re not going to get your way.
I have found that my personal route to happiness is to consider things from other people’s point of view, and that seems to help me change my own. Because at the end of the day, I can only control my own behavior.
I do not believe anyone else owes me anything to accommodate my minor requests (my dog is an example of a minor request). So I proceed from there.
There’s really so much more I’d like to say about this. if you’re an FDSA student go to the alumni group on FB and start a conversation – it’s the right place for it.